Report From The Tower
Today, I was challenged by a reader, who said that the devil could counterfeit the manna from heaven. I suppose that might be possible, but I sent the question in to XXXXXXXXXxx XXXXXXXXXx. This was her answer to me, which was quite a bit longer than I expected.
What she sent to me had pictures in it that won't go to the net so far. I have to figure out a way to get them uploaded when I get time. They are awesome to behold.
Now, here are the comments from XXXXXX XXXXXXXx, regarding the Manna From Heaven.
Reread Revelation 2:17, and see what the Holy Spirit says to you! For you will find the manna is promised to an overcomer! No God does not say when He will give it to the person... i suspect He gives it to them when He wants to and a special time in the future too!
With Harold Beyer, when he would open the Bible, not the Bible of Satan, but the Holy bible, God would often put the Manna on it supernaturally. And at times just on the top of the Holy Bible. But other times if Harold opened to Rev. 2:17... now i know it was probably the holy angels that put it there in the first place, is my guess at this point.
Now lets look at the TREE of Harold Beyer, remember what the Lord told us, a Kingdom against itself it will not STAND... And a good tree brings forth good fruit...
So lets look at Mr. Harold Beyer's TREE, is it good or is it evil?:
1. He is a long established good Godly man of God, and now ministering of the Lord Jesus Christ.
2. He is a missionary now, and has an excellent godly character rating in the body of the Lord Jesus Christ, along with being baptized in the Holy Spirit.
3. I got to meet him in person and his lovely wife, she is of the same character in the Lord as he is, excellent. They pray to God, read their bibles, repent of their sins, and do the work of God. And YHVH/God continually sends miracles to their ministry... because He decided to do that, He is God, I guess He can do that, the Holy Bible gives Him the right even to do it!
Ok, what else is there, did a demon sneak in and no one knew it and do the miracle? How far do we have to tear a person apart to find out if they are a REAL Christian and what level of a Christian are they? Are we at some point in danger of offending the Holy Spirit in our tearing someone apart to satisfy an endless urge to be right when we are wrong about something? I am getting a yes, from the Holy Spirit, we are indeed in danger of offending HIM... And we are to prove things, but again some what to prove beyond proving... they are on an endless lets "hang Harold Beyer" because we THINK he has a devil, now that is the opinion of some, and others, say no do not linch him, HE IS THE REAL THING doing the REAL STUFF from YHVH/God! By the way, put me on the Lord Jesus Christ's side, i know he is a man of YHVH/God and his wife is too! Angels who are writing, thank you very much!
If we cannot discern these things, tell me how will we ever be able to discern the antichrist? or antichrists. Did God leave us so dumb spiritually? Or are we not processing the correct way to discern-- are we using the SOUL or the spirit/Spirit, or do we have a evil spirit that needs to be cast out? Which? The soul will get you into a lot of trouble folks... it can LIE... to you...
Some things are of God and some the enemy is known for... as you asked your question, i would say you probably know the answer but i will try to also present it to you... first, yes, i did write in haste but i would write it again the same way probably, and second, there are real holy angels that the devil cannot copy without FLAWS, he can try to duplicate with a FLAW but he cannot copy, even his duplication can appear to be very real but it is not the real thing -- there will be FLAWS ALWAYS, furthermore we have weapons do we not, to discern the real from the false... do we not? What is one of your weapons that would help you to discern the real from the false? Why do you not go and ask this weapon "what is real and what is false"... isn't He in you?
The same goes for the Manna regarding REAL and a duplicated false one "if such a one would be allow to occur..." [we have NO Biblical pattern for the devil creating even a false manna] so of course you know the answer do you not... there is the real Manna, the devil cannot duplicate, and their is whatever the devil wants to try to counterfeit which would be full of flaws if it did occur, which will appear real but will not be the real manna that God makes... But we have NO Biblical pattern for the devil creating a false manna, like we have for the devil trying to show up as an angel of light, here we have a biblical pattern do we not! YES!
Now a fallen demon angel is not a real holy angel of God is he? And a counterfeit manna, if such a thing even has occurred, i think it has not for there is no biblical pattern for it, is not the real manna of God is it? If even the devil is permitted to do a counterfeit manna, we have no scripture to the best of my knowledge that shows a pattern for him being allow to counterfeit the manna, but he was allowed to counterfeit the "angel of light" even with the flaws that come with it...
The counterfeit will always, always have FLAWS, but at first glance you may not catch it right away... but you will if you take a few seconds to discern in the Holy Spirit... and or ASK the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit said a strange thing to me, and i am not sure yet what it means even, but He said your answer to Stephen lies in the Manna....
Manna, I know means basically "what's it"...
From a quick mental reasoning so far lets see what we have:
1. No place in the bible has the bible ever mentioned that there is a pattern for the devil counterfeiting manna, is there Stephen? So no pattern exists for it.
2. In the Bible there is a place for the holy angels to be counterfeited in the sense that the demons can take on a false angel of light, by the way just in case you do not know this, the fallen angels do not take on the real appearance of a godly angel, it is still a false appearance... it will not be perfect and it will always have flaws... in whatever Lucifer tries to counterfeit....
3. In the Bible we have 14 reasons it is supernatural-Manna, we have 4 laws concerning it, six characteristics of it, a 2 fold description, when it stopped in the O.T., how it came-rained, pot of manna, and hidden manna in Rev. 2:17.
With Harold Beyer, when he would open the Bible, not the Bible of Satan, but the Holy bible, God would often put the Manna on it supernaturally.
If we cannot discern these things, tell me how will we ever be able to discern the antichrist? or antichrists. Did God leave us so dumb? Or are we not processing the correct way to discern or do we have a spirit that needs to be cast out? Which?
Be blessed, and keep em coming... if the Church cannot answer something who can? s.r.
Harold & Kaye Beyer October & November, 1998, Visitation & Miracle Healing,
— Saved over 35 years ago, we are excited how God is still using us to go to the mission field with the gospel. We have been married over 45 years; have 6 children and 10 grandchildren. God called us to missions 6 months after we were saved when we went on our first trip to Haiti, changing our lives forever. Since then we have ministered in many Caribbean Islands, Mexico, Central and South America, Norway, Israel, Germany, France, Denmark, Spain, Ghana, Africa and the Philippines. The last three years we spent much time in the deep jungles of Guyana, S. America to the forgotten native Amerindians. But the Lord has now expanded our ministry and opened many new doors to minister in many different churches in the states as well as overseas to give our testimony which has encourage people to believe God for miracles in their own lives knowing that we serve an awesome God. We believe that He is the same yesterday, today and forever and what He has done yesterday, He can still do today. For with God all things are possible!
One way God has made it possible for us to go to many different countries was by getting our daughter a job with the airlines, which means that her parents can fly for almost nothing. God will take an impossible situation and turn it around and make it possible to fulfill His will in your life. We have seen many signs and miracles in the last 30 years. On e unexpected miracle happened directly to us. In October of 1998, Harold suffered two severe strokes affecting his entire right side. The doctor’s report was not favorable with a prognosis that he would never be normal since the damage was done to the tem of his brain, an area that does not recover. That Lord spoke to us that we have done only a fraction of the work He has set before us. We truly believe God had a work for us to do in Guyana and He was not finished with us at this time. We are here to fulfill His word to “go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.” Mark 16:15
On November 11th God came to Harold at 3 A.M. He felt a heavy hand on his head and then heard a voice say, “I am the God that healeth thee.” Instantly he was completely healed. All his strength returned ad he was able to move as though he had never been sick! Subsequently when giving his testimony, we have see the same healing results in others.
[To see the pictures of the miracle manna from YHVH/God, they will show up in the attached documents, it has happened over 150 times at this point in time.]
Manna Article 1
Manna Article 2
Manna Article 3
Manna Article 4
Another blessing God has visited us in ministry is the gift of manna on our Bibles. This has happened to us many times. The manna has been an awesome expression of God’s love to us, blessing many who see and taste it. It has been a confirmation to us for direction and comfort in our lives. When blessed with it in the mission field, we have used it as the bread of communion, experiencing healing miracles through the partaking. The first time we received manna, God told Harold that if he were to live for Him, he would be shown many signs ad miracles that lots of people would never see. When manna falls on our Bibles, the presence of the Lord is so real. Just as the Israelites were provided for so long ago, His presence in the manna is provision for today. He has fulfilled His promise to us and continues to send manna for believers to be encouraged and blessed. This is a confirmation of His awesomeness and a gift direct from the Throne room of God. To know that He has honored His servants in such a way gives us the courage and strength to continue our missions work and pursue the calling He has placed on our lives.
“And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey. And Moses said, This is the thing which the Lord commandeth, Fill an omer of it to be kept for your generations; that they may see the bread wherewith I have fed you in the wilderness, when I brought you forth from the land of Egypt. And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a pot, and put an omer full of manna therein, and lay it up before the Lord, to be kept for your generations.” [Exodus 16:31-32]
“He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.” [Revelation 2:17]
October 30,& November 3, 2001, Miracle Manna, Manna Falls From The Throne Room Of God For About 34 Years Now!
— Today is Shabbat and it is quiet in Jerusalem. Everything shuts down between sundown Friday night and sundown Saturday night and a peace settles into the land like no other time. This past week, we and Nancy Bergen of Mt. Zion Fellowship, Jerusalem, had the privilege of hosting Kaye and Harold Beyer from Tampa, until last night when they went back to America. As most of you know, they have been having the manna fall from the throne room of heaven for about 34 years, but God has kept them hidden for over 30 years and is just bringing them "out" within the last 2-3 years. As a farmer and milk hauler from Wisconsin, and, of course, good Lutherans, Harold and Kaye knew 34 years ago that no one would believe them about this phenomenon from heaven, so they simply told no one other than family.
However, now is the time! God has brought instant healings from blindness, deafness, paralysis, etc., when people take one small piece of it. I didn't realize that is WHY there was not one feeble or frail among the Israelites, because it was God's keeping power through eating of the manna every day that kept them all in perfect health, as it is perfect food. It tastes like a salty, sweet, something like a wafer, but the flavor of a very small amount will totally fill your mouth. The most amazing thing is that this is the FIRST time ever that manna has fallen in the city of Jerusalem, God's Holy City, that we know of. The Israelites never had it in Jerusalem because it only fell for them in the wilderness and until they ate of the produce in the Promised Land
When they arrived last Friday (10/26/01), they said that before leaving Tampa, the Lord had given them two scriptures for this trip to Israel. One was Daniel 4:2: "It was good to show the signs and wonders that the high God hath wrought toward me" and the other was Matthew 18:19 "Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven." Saturday morning Nancy led us into great worship and Harold and Kaye ministered at Mt. Zion. The glory of the Lord came in such a wonderful way. God poured out manna inside Harold's Bible on the scripture: Revelation 2:17 "...and to whom overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna ...," a place where He has given the manna much of the time. There was just enough manna for everyone in the service to take a piece.
Saturday night Harold was coming inside the gate of the property and suddenly, the glory of God fell upon him and the manna fell directly upon the top of his Bible. Again, there was just enough manna for each person in the service. Nancy led all of us into beautiful praise and worship, after which Kaye shared wonderful experiences of God's leading them among the nations and many stories of His great provisions. There were many healings in the services; two women each had lumps in their breasts which disappeared; another woman had a lump in her side which disappeared; another had severe depression which lifted. There were other testimonies, equally as significant. That night, God dropped into my spirit, "Obed-Edom's home”.
Sunday morning Harold was on our balcony and when he came into the living room, there was such a glory all over him. He opened his Bible to Revelation 2:17 and the page was full of manna - in the apartment! "Obed-Edom's home!" Then, at Mt. Zion Fellowship, Nancy's leading us in praise and worship during the church service was beyond words. Bill ministered communion to everyone, giving a piece of manna to each person. There was more than enough manna for everyone
Because of hearing "Obed-Edom's home," we went out to that place on the outskirts of Jerusalem on Sunday afternoon. Before leaving, Nancy told us that earlier this summer, she, Bill and others from Mt. Zion had gone out to Obed-Edom's home and prophetically declared the glory of the Lord to manifest in Jerusalem - revival for Jerusalem. So, here we are back at the spot of Obed-Edom's home, carrying a manifestation of their prophetic declaration, the manna, and placing it in the very spot they prophesied over Jerusalem! God is awesome!
Sunday evening when we went to another place of worship in Jerusalem, God sent the manna in Harold's Bible. God was merciful to send it to this congregation as a sign and wonder.
Monday we were touring holy sites in Jerusalem. We went to St. Peter en Gallicantu Church where Jesus was held overnight in a pit and where Peter denied Jesus. This also is the place where Sister Ruth held services for the first ten years of Mt. Zion Fellowship. The Lord spoke to Harold: "Harold, open your hand." When he did, Harold watched the manna form only an inch or so directly above his hand and drop into it. The glory of God was so strong upon him, he had to lean against the wall just to stand up. Harold put manna on the altar at St. Peter's Church; we're believing for an outpouring of God's glory again in that place!
Tuesday morning we were again touring the holy sites in Jerusalem and went to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre… While we were standing by the location of the cross, the glory of God fell suddenly upon Harold, with a force which almost threw him to the floor. He was holding his Bible in his hand and suddenly we saw two placements of the manna. One formed the cross with five pieces of the manna and the other arrangement formed the letter "J". Harold took the largest piece at the “heel” of the "boot" of the "J" and dropped it into the hole which allows a person to touch the bedrock at the location of the cross. More glory!
Tuesday night we went to the Endtime Handmaidens meeting at their House of Peace in Jerusalem. The Lord's presence was tremendous and He put the manna inside Harold's Bible again on Revelation 2:17. Each person who was there received a piece and was touched by the glory
Thursday we had our friend, Hayseed Stephens, of Ft. Worth, Texas, join us for lunch at the apartment. Hayseed has been commissioned by God to drill the oil well in Israel at the Dead Sea, a major endtime event to begin within a short time. There was a great glory from the time he arrived and the Lord let us know it was a significant time, for two endtime streams had crossed one another. The Jews believe that when two endtime streams cross one another, it is one of the most significant signs of the coming of the Messiah. The Lord also gave us a word in which He said it was a day for Selahs. It was a time to ponder Him, not the manifestations He was bringing into the earth, but just Him. All that He was doing was so far beyond the comprehension of men, no human mind could ever comprehend it. That day He brought together the crossing of two threads in His fabric of His great plan and it was of a far greater significance than any of us could understand. So, all there was to say was - Selah- just ponder Him. After lunch, Hayseed left the room momentarily and when he returned, there suddenly appeared manna on the top of Harold's Bible. The manna was in the shape of two lines crossing over one another, with the largest piece at the center. God is so awesome.
Friday morning we went to Temple Treasures Institute in the Old City, Jerusalem, wherein the Jews have reconstructed all the necessary utensils for their temple worship. Included is a small replica of the Ark of the Covenant. A guide described the temple worship from the times of the First (Solomon's) Temple and the Second (Nehemiah's) Temple. She mentioned the manna having been in the Ark of the Covenant, which was present only in the First Temple, but hidden away by the Jews at the time of the Babylonian captivity... She indicated the First Temple was destroyed in 586 B.C., which means the manna was away from any human contact since that time -- until NOW, 2586 years later! I was holding Harold's Bible and when we were to look at the video of the Temple Treasures, impulsively I looked inside his Bible and there was the manna! Again, on Revelation 2:17! I was more excited about the fact that Harold wasn't holding his Bible but I was, to mean the impartation is in Jerusalem.
Friday afternoon we went to the Garden Tomb, a beautiful garden which some traditions say is the site of Jesus' crucifixion. While seven of us were standing inside the empty tomb and singing and worshipping, the glory of God filled the inside of the tomb. Harold had his hand leaning on the iron railing separating the weeping chamber from the burial chamber. Suddenly, one of the women shrieked because Harold's hand was full of manna. He got so weak, he had to sit down to weep because of the presence of the Lord upon him. After the glory somewhat lifted from Harold, we all went to the side and Bill led all of us in communion, including staff members of CBN who had just joined us for a television interview with Harold and Kaye. We used the manna again for the communion bread and were all greatly touched by the Lord through it. The camera man said he experienced a tremendous surge of energy as soon as the piece of manna touched his mouth.
The interview with CBN (possibly to be aired on a future 700 Club broadcast) was excellent and full of the presence of the Lord. Harold and Kaye had just come from the great blessing of being in the empty tomb in God's presence, having communion and then directly to the interview. We pray it will be aired soon.
In summary, the week was something directly from heaven for all of us to experience. Harold and Kaye were a great blessing to Mt. Zion Fellowship and to all of Jerusalem. In return, God greatly poured out a blessing upon them and into them to take back to America and to the other nations where they are called. To think that in the year 2000, God poured out the manna in their meetings 17 times, but in one week in His Holy City, He poured it out 10 times. And, to realize that the Ark was hidden at 586BC, at the time of the destruction of the First Temple, and that the manna actually never fell in Jerusalem, and NOW God poured it out ten times... it's beyond our comprehension! Even more than the manifestation of the manna, though, is the glory of God that comes with it. Every time He poured it out, we could hardly stand, for His presence in our midst. We are truly living in days of awe and we know what He is doing is beyond man's perception. What a blessing to live in such a day! Peace from Jerusalem, Bill and Connie Wilson.
From: We Care For You Ministries, Harold & Kaye Beyer, P.O. Box 262372, Tampa, Florida 33685-2372, firstname.lastname@example.org, or www.wecareforyou.homestead.com and from this web site there is a link over to another site with more information and pictures, Ruth Heflins.
Stephen L. Bening
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